You have all been really helpful Being very new at this I was not sure what the difference in the was was, but I did order about 60lbs of the 4786 cause I had thought I'd start with containers first. But I've learned that my experiments are better done in votives lol.. So if the only real difference is the texture of the wax and its just for my own use I think from what I've read I'll be ok with my mad scientist experiments.