Doing some reading in the forums about the properties of pine tar, and thought I'd try a small batch for myself/dh to see if I'd like it. Most of the people who'd made it said trace is VERY fast, and you could end up with soap on a stick. I used a 20% water discount, whisked for approx. 20 seconds. Yes, it did trace fast, but not so fast that it wasn't pourable. I let it gel, unmolded and cut last night. Scented with BB's Sleigh Ride, which covered the pine tar scent quite nicely. Smells like pine trees and crisp cold winds! Lathers like a mofo!