Ernie

Well I tried pretty much every kind of wax I have here and everyone got sink hole in the 16oz mason. Yah outside is cooling too fast, oh well. Im not going to wrap or put boxes on these, its just too much work if you have a lot to pour. Im ok with a dbl pour since I mostly use dbl pour paraffin anyways.

Hanging bit? You talking about the small black circle where the wick is attached? I have always used this wick holders from aztec, but only with the mason jar have I had this problem.

Ok, I just discovered something. I also poured a 6046 in the same 16 oz mason jar and it did exactly the same thing. Jars were both heated in oven, house temp right now is 76. Didn't get any of the sink holes in an 8 oz jar, only the 16oz.

Here is what I just poured Ceda Serica

I recently purchased the Calwax version of this and for me I have to do a double pour. It sinks really bad in a 16oz mason jar. Seems like 6046 is a better wax than this supposed luxury wax.

The alternative I found was what you said Polyboost or bypol x. Don't matter now, I am just using stearic instead and it seems to be the ticket. I guess no one is buying 343 anymore so they stopped selling it, at least that is what Aztec told me. You would think since they still sell mottling wax and multipurpose wax that they would still carry it.

If you look at the pics of the orange candles, you can see the color and scent oil bled out. It needed the stearic acid to stop it and allow 6% fo. And as far as vybar 343 which is the one for mottling wax, I am finding out that it was discontinued and no one sells it anymore. I have a whole bag of it here and used it on one candle not shown and it worked great, with a slightly different mottle, but no sense in using it anymore if I can't get it. As far as the smooth finish goes, I need soft microcrystaline wax for better jar adhesion and smoother tops, but it seems everyone that carries it only sell the higher melt point. I just cant win

Ok got bored today so i figured out what seems to be the 1286 mottling formula using multi purpose wax for anyone interested. 6.25% stearic per pound of wax. Lol so simple. First pic is all the testers I made to get the finish result which is teal colored one that still isnt finished mottling yet.

I know this is an old thread, but just realized while searching around that no one carries vybar 343. Does anyone know a company that carries it? I thought I purchased what I have at Aztec but I dont see it there or any other candle place.

Just got a a slab of this wax to try out as an alternative to igi 1286 and have been doing some experimenting with it. So far I like the mottling look of this multi purpose wax better than the 1286. I tried to pour one with vybar 260 to see if I could get something similar to the look of 4786 but it just gets a mat finish. Does anyone know what will give this wax a smooth finish because vybar isn't doing it? Also, is there an additive that will give better glass adhesion for a mottling wax that won't disturb the mottling?

Ok Erron, got some good news maybe I ordered some igi 1230 just to try out, and turns out it is the mottling wax that I was originally looking for when I first purchased the 1286. Its not so perfect of a mottle as the 1286 which I actually like better since it shows abnormal patters depending on how the fragrance oil settles in the wax, and its also more transparent. Its a base wax that wasn't specially formulated to mottle like 1286, so you can do what you want to it. I tried additives before with the 1286 and it never looked right. Well maybe you tried it already maybe not, but anyways thats where Im at right now. I poured 2 candles so far, 1 with 6% and 1@10% FO. I read that it mottles at 10%, but so far 6% did it with lots of seepage. Gonna try some 343 and 260 vybar and some stearin to see what happens.

Here is the reply Customer Service (Aztec Candle and Soap Making Supplies) <support@candlemaking.zendesk.com> 8:53 AM (4 hours ago) to me ##- Please type your reply above this line -## Your request (78499) has been updated. To add additional comments, reply to this email. Customer Service (Aztec Candle and Soap Making Supplies) Nov 21, 2022, 11:53 AM EST Hi Ernie, We have not had any complaints/issues with the performance of 1286. It is actually one of our top-selling waxes. Thanks, Camilla Customer Service Team

Well I just sent Aztec an email asking them if anyone else has complained about that wax or any other IGI wax since I need to order soon. Ill let you know what they tell me as soon as they get back to me.

Are you adding additives, and where did you purchase it from, and what wick? I am doing some apothecary jar testing with what I have and I added Vybar 343 and I noticed not as strong a hot throw than without it. Using Zinc wicks single and double. And also, that wax only holds 5% fo. Try 3 tbs stearic and see if that helps. Like I said Im going to try out the igi 1230 which also mottles to see how it compares.

You said you were going to pour some more tests with the 1286. Did you get any better results or do you think it was still a bad batch of wax? I just ordered a slab of igi 1230 to try out, do you have any experience with that wax? If so, how much FO does it need to mottle?