Paintguru

12 minutes ago, Candybee said:

When I used paraffin wax I also used zincs because they were the best at scent throw. However, zincs are prone to mushrooming which can lead to higher sooting. All candles soot, its not a 'paraffin given' issue. Soy, coconut, beeswax, palm, et al., all soot. Its the amount of soot we try to control. Properly wicked candles will minimize sooting. Too much FO can also cause sooting, lots of sooting. So getting the wick and FO load down is what will help minimize sooting issues. There are other reasons too but these 2 are generally the biggest culprits. 

 

I was reading on a suppliers website that 4630 can hold up to 1 1/2 oz FO PPW.  That's just under 10% FO load. Just because it can hold that much does not mean it should have that much FO. That's a lot for paraffin. I never went above 6% FO load in my paraffin candles. You should be striving for the least amount of FO for the best burn and best throw to help minimize sooting.

I stay at 6%, and you're right, zinc does mushroom.  Maybe I just need to go down a size and see if I can get enough heat to clear the walls.  

4 minutes ago, Sarah S said:

Sorry @Paintguru, I have the same experience using CBL-125, HTP wicks, and the country comfort jar. Even candles that I know are slightly under wicked develop some soot around the neck of the jar. I have a friend who power burns and never trims her wicks. I can't even look at her candles. 😲

It's not as bad with the 16oz straight jars, although I will get some soot around the neck during the last quarter of the jar. Really wide open bowls don't seem to have that issue at all.

Okay, so it isn't just me!!  Yeah she was comparing it to a wide bowl from Bath and Body Works.  I think the shallow/wide containers don't have the contact time and have better air flow that minimizes the sooting (even though, again, I've seen her BBW candles on power burn, and it is a near forest fire of flickering flames!).  

It seems like every wick type does a similar thing where the air currents make the wick dance and throw soot once it has burned down about half way.  I'm open to try more....I did wick down on my most recent one and it is doing okay but still has a slight film of soot on the wall.  

Okay, before I drive myself crazy, my SIL gave me feedback that the double wicked 16 oz country comfort jar developed a fair amount of soot on the inside once the candle burned down.  I use 4630 and zinc core wicks.  My single wick, 7 oz straight sided jars are similar, especially when the wick gets lower in the jar.  To be fair, she's not the best at trimming her wicks.  Before I drive myself crazy with this, is there much one can do when using a relatively narrow jar like the 7 oz jar (2.5" diameter) or the country comfort jar?  I use the smallest wicks possible to clear the walls of wax.  

4 hours ago, Laura C said:

 

It is so easy to do that but don't think you're alone, I'm right there with you. LOL

Between getting candles I'm happy with and setting up websites, insurance, business stuff, etc. it is overwhelming, and I'm not even selling anything yet!!  

Any update on this?  I'm still screwing around with wicks for this, mostly because I kinda want a self trimming wick.  I've always liked Eco wicks in this wax, but they do seem to dance and throw some smoke when starting a burn.

1.  Still working on it...I just need to jump in and stop over-analyzing everything!!

I feel like Fragrance Buddy and Indiana Candle Supply may be two of the best for bakery scents.  Still working through all my samples from both, but I echo the Lemon lb cake from FB comments from @GailC , great stuff.

1st label for sure.

Candles

Wax:  4630

Container:  4 oz tin

Wick:  Zinc core

Loading:  6.25%

Cure time:  1-2 weeks

Cold Throw:  Very good (8/10)

Hot Throw:  Very good (8/10)

Comments:  A very nice, coastal fragrance.  Does a good job filling a large area with scent, but not overpowering.  

Candles 

wax used:                                         4630

fragrance load (%)                           6.5%

average cure time:                          1 week

Wax additives?                                 None

container:                                          4 oz tin

wicking notes                                  Zinc core

Cold throw                                        Very good (7.5/10)

Hot Throw:                                        Very good (8/10)

Very interesting scent.  I thought it would be super spicy smelling it OOB, but it has a sweet note to it as well.  Almost like Christmas Hearth???

Candles

wax used: 4630

fragrance load (%): 6.25%

average cure time: ~ 1 week

Wax additives: none

container size 4 oz tin

Wick:  Zinc Core 

Cold throw: good (8/10)

Hot Throw: excellent (9/10)

Nice bakery scent.  Very nice lemon mixed with sugar/baked goods fragrance.  Throws really well!

Nice.  Would be good for easy setup/take-down for craft fairs too.  How much for the 8x10?  Other sizes available I assume?

Candles

wax used: 4630

fragrance load (%): 6.25%

Container:  4 oz tin

Wick:  Zinc Core

average cure time: 1 week

Wax additives: none

Cold throw: Average (5/10) revised to 6/10

Hot Throw: Average (5/10) revised to 6/10

Purchased: 2018

Pretty weak throw IMO.  Nice fragrance...a mix of floral and woodsy.  Shame it doesn't throw better.  

Slight revision....throw is better than I initially thought....still not spectacular, but I'm upgrading to a 6/10.

Agree with all of the above.  Used in 4630 at 6.25%, had great hot and cold throw.

Candles

wax used: 4630

fragrance load (%): 6.25%

Container:  4 oz tin

Wick:  Zinc Core

average cure time: 1 week

Wax additives: none

Cold throw: Average (6/10)

Hot Throw: Average (6/10)

Purchased: 2018

Smells nice OOB, but has average hot throw and has lost some of its strawberriness once in the wax.  May perform better with higher loading.  

3 hours ago, Forrest said:

My guess is a 44 zinc core would be the best wick here, but I'm out of those until my order from FC arrives. It was cool in my house when I did this test, so all of those wicks will be to big come summer time.

 

Yup, that's what I use.  My only worry is they are not self trimming (or don't appear to be) and after seeing what my sister-in-law had on her test candle that she never trimmed....I'm starting to worry.  😓

I ended up using zinc core with 4630, but it will be interesting to see how your tests work out.  

As posted by @Trappeur

Description:                                  Basil Sage and Mint

Basil, Sage, Mint Fragrance Oil **

An exhilarating blend of cool mint, refreshing basil and earthy sage enhanced with a sparkle of citrus and underscored with white musk and woods.

Notes:

• Top - lemon, orange, lime, mint, basil
• Middle - sage, cedarleaf, herbaceous, eucalyptus
• Bottom - earthy, musk

wax used: 464                              464

 fragrance load (%)                      6%

average cure time:                       2 weeks

Wax additives?                             u

container:                                       16oz Harvest canning and all specialty crystal jars 6" diameter and 20oz tureens

wick:                                                cd

Cold throw: Average  #10            10          

Hot Throw: #10                              10

Notes:                                             For the past 4 years or so every since Flaming came out with this scent it is a consistent #1 top seller in all shops I sell to.    This is a very strong, strong

                                                        scent that is for sure.    

11 hours ago, Trappeur said:

After a review is put up lets say for Mac Apple and you (TT) move it to the review section can we go over to the new area it is in and ask any questions pertaining only to that scent?   Or is it only for reviews and if anyone has any questions, it has to be asked in a brand new thread?

 

Trappeur

 

 

 

IMO, people can review and discuss a FO in the same thread.  The point is to have the information easily accessible.  Also, there is no reason the moderators should need to move threads, any user can post a new thread for a FO review in the appropriate supplier sub-forum.  

Posted by @Trappeur

Candles:

Description:                                  Pineapple cilantro 

wax used: 464                              464

 fragrance load (%)                      6%

average cure time:                       2 weeks

Wax additives?                             uv

container:                                       16oz Harvest canning and all specialy 6: diameter and up jars  

wick:                                                cd

Cold throw: Average  #10            10          

Hot Throw: #10                              10

Notes:                                               Been using for over  10 plus years  with Flaming.   Is a consistant #1 seller with all my wholesale accounts

Used in:  Candles

Description:  Good, strong throwing FO.  I don't get a ton of coconut, mostly the bamboo.  Strong mix of floral/woodsy.

wax used: 4630

fragrance load (%) 6.5%

average cure time: 1 week

Wax additives?  None

container: 4 oz tin

wick:  Zinc core

Cold throw: Great  (9 out of 10)

Hot Throw: Great (9 out of 10)

Used in:  Candles

Description:  If you've had the cereal, you'll know the scent.  An awesome, sugary fake blueberry smell.    

wax used: 4630

fragrance load (%) 6.5%

average cure time: 1 week

Wax additives?  None

container: 4 oz tin

wick:  Zinc core

Cold throw: Good  (7 out of 10)

Hot Throw: Very good (8 out of 10)

Tested in:  Candles

Description:  Complex, earthy scent.  Reminds me of many of the "dirt" fragrances I've smelled in the past, but more interesting.  Not overpowering, but it throws well.  My wife LOVES it.

wax used: 4630

fragrance load (%) 6.5%

average cure time: 1 week

Wax additives?  None

container: 4 oz tin

wick:  Zinc core

Cold throw: Good (7.5 out of 10)

Hot Throw: Very good (8 out of 10)

I like the Tuscan part...Tuscan Garden, Tuscan Summer, Tuscan Harvest....