Mik

Gosh, this is all so sad. I knew I was not incompetent, just thought maybe I was crazy. I cannot believe all that I am seeing in these posts. Personally I have spent thousands of dollars testing different waxes and wasting materials. If my 3,000 poured candles are all ruined due to frosting I am really going to loose it. I will let you know how my next tests go. I did buy the c-3 as well. But I can't go lower than 10% fragrance load. One of the reasons I tried adding beeswax. I have to say that I have achieved beautiful results finally with the 464 adding a tiny bit of beeswax. But this involves multiple pours and the end result is that they turn into Dorian Gray in 6 weeks. I am pretty certain the swans/ calwax apricot coco is going to be dreamy. I just really wanted to go all natural. But it is becoming clear to me based on your experiences and mine that it might not be possible. The quantum I also tried. SMOKEY! I have to wonder what is considered normal in terms of labor and results with soy. Was it always this bad?

This is my first time on a forum. I have been toiling away for the last couple years figuring it out on my own. I really want to use an all natural wax. But I am starting to feel that I am hitting a brick wall. Today I poured a second top on my 464/beeswax combo with all my tricks. I really thought this was going to be it. And yet the bubbles came up yet again and I spent several hours topping and retopping. After all my labor, it is quite possible that in 6 weeks they will all look ruined with out of control frosting. I have spent the last three months pouring 150 candles each day, only to find them suddenly frosting over like crazy. They look awful. Beginning to wonder if soy is just too unstable. I ordered some new waxes from swans today to test out. Coco- apricot but it does have paraffin. Why are the soy wax companies not taking this seriously? We are professional businesses that rely on their products as our base. It is unacceptable that they are selling us faulty product. I wish there was a natural wax out there that had nuance but not all the problems we are experiencing.

Personally I have found CS to be a great supplier on the west coast. I find their shipping fees and delivery to be top notch. No complaints at all. I have been going crazy over the 464 though. I used a soy blend to start, and tested soy waxes for almost 2 years to figure out where I wanted to go. I decided on 464. I tested for a year, and found the best results with this wax. Then I bought a pallet from CS in November. I have poured almost the whole pallet to launch 24 new styles at the winter shows. Today I found that half of my candles have turned into a frosted nightmare. Completely un-sellable. Just as my show orders are pouring in. I feel sick. After 2 years of testing every possible variation, I busted the move on CS and 464. I have at least $30,000 invested in vessels, wax, and fragrance. And labor beyond. It has not been easy. Bubbles ! 3 pours or more. I have added coconut wax, beeswax, changed temps, altered fragrance load. So many things. I can't believe it is this challenging. Still not sure who where I will order my next pallet of wax from. I really want to go all natural soy. But it us getting the best of me. Why is there not a decent wax that we can all work with?