pinkcandle88 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 I’m planning to make Gel material (Gel to make gel candle) by myselt but I still can not find the formula or method to make gel.If possible, please kindly help me how to make gel (method, formula, materials to make gel…)Many many thanks for your helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twoscentsworth Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Long long ago in a galaxy far far away...... people made their own gel wax. However, Penreco™ holds the patent on gel wax and will vigorously defend that patent and did so. You may not legally make your own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Long long ago in a galaxy far far away...... people made their own gel wax. However, Penreco™ holds the patent on gel wax and will vigorously defend that patent and did so. You may not legally make your own.Ditto! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisasoaps Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 (edited) I actually recall last year sometime, thumbing through a craft book or candle and soap book at books and borders I think it was. I found a recipe for making gel wax but I had no interest in it so I cant recall the book name or the recipe but I am sure if you call them they may be able to figure it out.However, if you would have googled it you would have also found the recipe and found that the 2 ingredients you need to make the gel are not readily available because as the others have said PATENTS. Edited December 19, 2009 by Lisasoaps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrcr Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 I did this YEARS ago. If I remember correctly mineral oil was one thing and I don't remember the other item. I bought the supplies from some company in Tennessee which was later known for its less than stellar customer service. I can't think of the name, and I believe they changed names a few times since then. I'm sure someone else can think of it though. It was easy, but I couldn't move gel candles to save my life... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyMikeisMe Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 I actually recall last year sometime, thumbing through a craft book or candle and soap book at books and borders I think it was. I found a recipe for making gel wax but I had no interest in it so I cant recall the book name or the recipe but I am sure if you call them they may be able to figure it out.However, if you would have googled it you would have also found the recipe and found that the 2 ingredients you need to make the gel are not readily available because as the others have said PATENTS.For my two cents worth, I can say that earlier this week I did find a recipe for gel making in a book at a craft store. The two ingredients listed were 16 oz of mineral oil (readily available) and 25 g of CP-9000 thermoplastic resin powder (not readily available). As I understand it, patent law does not apply to someone who wants to make their own gel for personal use in a non-commercial, not-for-profit manner; rather, it would apply only if someone made their own gel and sold it in bulk or made candles from it and sold them.Unless I'm mistaken, it would not be illegal to make your own gel to use in your own personal candles or candles given as gifts to friends & familiy. I would have a hard time imagining a company would enforce a patent in a situation like that, because they would put themselves in a bad light in the public.I'd love to hear any feedback, though, because this is just a side hobby for me and not something on which I spend a lot of time and therefore I might lack some information. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAVAEBOY Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 Well, after doing a fairly extensive search for this resin, I did find a place that seems to sell it. http://www.craftlobby.com They go by the name Big River Wholesale. Do a search on their site for resin, and it comes up. It looks like 1lb - $8.00, 5lbs - $39.50. It looks like they try to get around the patent stuff, by using a disclaimer that states: Big River Wholesale does not sell CP9000 for the purpose of making gel candles. We sell Penreco finished gel for candle making projects due to the Penreco gel candle patents (U.S. Patent Numbers: 5,578,089; 6,066,329; 5,879,694). They then go on to tell you how to mix it. 2 cups of Mineral oil to 25 grams of resin. So if my math is correct, a 1lb bag of resin will produce approximately 15 3/4 lbs or so of Gel. This is how I achieved this number: Assuming a 5 gallon bucket of gel weighs ~35 lbs.454 grams/ pound454/25 = 18.16 (round off to 18)18 x 16 fluid ounces (2 cups) = 288 ounces288 / 128 (ounces in a gallon) = 2.25 gallons2.25 x 7 lb/gallon = 15.75 lbs.A further search found clear Mineral oil to be about $25/gallon so I'm not sure making your own makes financial sense. Especially if you can get it with a 40% off coupon from Michaels, Hobby Lobby or such for about $25 or so. Hope that both answers the question, and makes a financial calculation a little easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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