I'm really liking the tins!!! I thought tins would be a good place to start after all the reading that I did on this forum. Honestly, everything I read about frosting, wet spots and rough tops had me a little bit scared. I figured that since no one can see thru the sides of a tin, I won't have to worry about the frosting and wet spots. I'm testing 2 oz, 4 oz and 8 oz tins. I travel a lot with my job and take those types of candles with me so it made sense. I'm a CP soaper and also make all kinds of lotions, shampoos, etc so I have a ton of fragrance oils. Originally, I started with a candle making set from Peak. It included 8 oz tins, the CB 135, wicks, etc. I found that the wicks they included don't work to my satisfaction with that wax or the fragrances. So then I found my way over here and started reading. Due to your posts, Old Glory, I picked up a big sample pack of Premier wicks (as well as others) and then ordered a bunch of wax samples from Peak. I like the CB 135 but I saw that you also use 464 and 6006 so I'm trying those too. So far, with the CB 135, I'm liking the Eco wicks. I"ve gone thru 10 lbs of the 135 and will be ordering more. I thought soap was addicting---this is ridiculous!!! (but I love it!) If I can figure this out, I may give a few candles as gifts to family members (only the ones that are good with candle safety). I'm actually pretty close to getting the wicking right for CB 135 and these tins. I think I'm just 1 test away (they're curing now) for the couple of FOs I've been testing (all holiday scents).