COCONUT WAX

[dlourence]

HI EVERYONE, IM NEW TO CANDLING SO FAR SO GOOD. IM HAVING A HARD TIME WITH MY SCENT THROW. I REALLY HAVEN'T FOUND THE SCENT CO. IM THRILLED WITH YET. I FEEL LIKE SOME OF MY SCENT FALLS TO THE BOTTOM WITH WEAK THROW. IT DOES  SOMETIMES GET STRONGER TOWARDS THE BOTTOM . I USE COCONUT WAX.  I PRETTY MUCH HEAT THE WAX TO 185 ADD SCENT COOL TO ABOUT 165  THEN POUR. I'VE HEARD THE WAX NEEDS TO BIND NOT SURE HOW TO DO THAT WITH COCONUT WAX. ALSO THE AMOUNT OF SCENT. I READ COCONUT WAX CAN HANDLE MORE F.O. SO  THIS LAST CANDLE I MADE I ADDED 2OZ OF F.O. I WAS SO EXCITED I LET IT CURE FOR 2 DAYS  LIT IT AND ALMOST NO SCENT BOO HOO. IM USEING " SAVE ON SCENTS" F.O. 

HELP 

[TallTayl]

Welcome to craftserver! Quite a few of us use a coconut wax blend and love it. We'd love to help you troubleshoot. If you can let us know the following, your candle problems will be much easier for us to narrow down:

 

- container size (height and diameter):

- how much wax by weight you used in the candle:

- container material (glass, ceramic, metal, etc):

- wick type (i.e. The manufacturer- cd, eco, RRD, paper, etc)

- wick size (i.e. Cd10, rrd40, eco6, etc)

- which coconut wax (there are 3-4+ available retail right now and all are different):

- what fragrance, and where it is from:

- how much fragrance by weight you actually used in the candle

 

[dlourence]

 Hi....ok heres The info 

 

-glass with 1"heavy base

-4"h with that thick 1" base

 3"w 

-wick ECO8

-wax from Northwood candle supply

-about 8oz wax in glass

-2oz of sandalwood ultra is the scent I use from

 Save on Scents

 

Edited February 8, 2018 by dlourence
I made 1lbs wax with 2oz scent

[kandlekrazy]

You may just need to cure it longer.

[dlourence]

kandlekrazy

what would you say is a proper cure time?

[TallTayl]

34 minutes ago, dlourence said:

 Hi....ok heres The info 

 

-glass with 1"heavy base

-4"h with that thick 1" base

 3"w 

-wick ECO8

-wax from Northwood candle supply

-about 8oz wax in glass

-2oz of sandalwood ultra is the scent I use from

 Save on Scents

 

I would go no higher than 6% fragrance and eco 4 or 6 depending on which of the coconut waxes northwood carries. There are several on the market that are from the same manufacturer. They perform differently. If that one is accublend coconut 83 then it is like the one I have. You don't want a big melt pool on that wax. You should have a thin wall of gel like wax as it burns down.

 

sandalwood is a tough scent. Most are so weak they are barely detectable in candles. If you have a wax warmer, like a scentsy, put a few drops of that fragrance in salt and heat it for a while. You'll probably agree it is not an in your face type of scent.

 

Those dimensions and descriptions are nearly identical to status jars that I make in the coconut wax beads. Over wicking them is problematic. Over scenting does nothing to improve the coconut wax performance. 

 

I barely melt that wax until it is totally clear, add scent, stir for several minutes with a wide silicone spatula and pour. Covering the candle as it cools to low the cooling down really helps.

 

that wax has soy and palm in it. It will definitely benefit from a bit of a cure. A week is usually more than enough in my candles for that wax. 

 

Lastly, the air current in your home really messes with throw. If you have central heating, the cold air returns suck up the air in the room taking your fragrance along with it out of the room. The way my house air moves, the candles I burn in the living room travel down the hall. I can't smell the burning candle in the room, but I smell it several rooms away and down the basement stairs. 

[Scented]

I'd also try another fragrance supplier and do what they're saying above. 

[dlourence]

1 hour ago, TallTayl said:

I would go no higher than 6% fragrance and eco 4 or 6 depending on which of the coconut waxes northwood carries. There are several on the market that are from the same manufacturer. They perform differently. If that one is accublend coconut 83 then it is like the one I have. You don't want a big melt pool on that wax. You should have a thin wall of gel like wax as it burns down.

 

sandalwood is a tough scent. Most are so weak they are barely detectable in candles. If you have a wax warmer, like a scentsy, put a few drops of that fragrance in salt and heat it for a while. You'll probably agree it is not an in your face type of scent.

 

Those dimensions and descriptions are nearly identical to status jars that I make in the coconut wax beads. Over wicking them is problematic. Over scenting does nothing to improve the coconut wax performance. 

 

I barely melt that wax until it is totally clear, add scent, stir for several minutes with a wide silicone spatula and pour. Covering the candle as it cools to low the cooling down really helps.

 

that wax has soy and palm in it. It will definitely benefit from a bit of a cure. A week is usually more than enough in my candles for that wax. 

 

Lastly, the air current in your home really messes with throw. If you have central heating, the cold air returns suck up the air in the room taking your fragrance along with it out of the room. The way my house air moves, the candles I burn in the living room travel down the hall. I can't smell the burning candle in the room, but I smell it several rooms away and down the basement stairs. 

What’re do you get your wax?  Do you have a F.O. Company you love! Here is my candle right now. That a ECO 8 wick 

[dlourence]

3 minutes ago, dlourence said:

What’re do you get your wax?  Do you have a F.O. Company you love! Here is my candle right now. That a ECO 8 wick 

I feel like I’m losing a lot of wax🤔

[TallTayl]

How long do you burn it each time? 

 

Does that hat jar belly out or is it an optical illusion?

 

around the half way point air current goes into overdrive and will melt all that wax. 

[TallTayl]

And.... do you trim your wick short with each burn? 

[dlourence]

Yes it’s does belly out lol. I do trim wick ever few hour and right when I lite it. I burn min of 2hours but 4 hours on an average 

[TallTayl]

OK so that explains a lot. You shouldn’t have to trim your wick every couple hours if it’s wicked correctly. Just once when you light it. 

 

That suggests to me that my thought on the eco-six is correct. Possibly even a go eco4. My six got a little hot toward the last 1/3. I’m going to go back and try a 4 just to confirm.

[dlourence]

On 2/8/2018 at 7:46 AM, TallTayl said:

I would go no higher than 6% fragrance and eco 4 or 6 depending on which of the coconut waxes northwood carries. There are several on the market that are from the same manufacturer. They perform differently. If that one is accublend coconut 83 then it is like the one I have. You don't want a big melt pool on that wax. You should have a thin wall of gel like wax as it burns down.

 

sandalwood is a tough scent. Most are so weak they are barely detectable in candles. If you have a wax warmer, like a scentsy, put a few drops of that fragrance in salt and heat it for a while. You'll probably agree it is not an in your face type of scent.

 

Those dimensions and descriptions are nearly identical to status jars that I make in the coconut wax beads. Over wicking them is problematic. Over scenting does nothing to improve the coconut wax performance. 

 

I barely melt that wax until it is totally clear, add scent, stir for several minutes with a wide silicone spatula and pour. Covering the candle as it cools to low the cooling down really helps.

 

that wax has soy and palm in it. It will definitely benefit from a bit of a cure. A week is usually more than enough in my candles for that wax. 

 

Lastly, the air current in your home really messes with throw. If you have central heating, the cold air returns suck up the air in the room taking your fragrance along with it out of the room. The way my house air moves, the candles I burn in the living room travel down the hall. I can't smell the burning candle in the room, but I smell it several rooms away and down the basement stairs. 

Roughly at what temp do you add the scent?  Do you heat the wax up to 185 degrees? 

Edited February 9, 2018 by dlourence

[dlourence]

Roughly what temp would you add the F.O.? 

[TallTayl]

12 hours ago, dlourence said:

Roughly what temp would you add the F.O.? 

I honestly never measured the temp. I melt til almost completely melted in the presto. Pour into the pouring pot, and let complete the melt in the pour pot. It's nowhere near 200 though. Probably, if I were to guess, 150. I let it cool a bit in the pour pot so I don't ruin the wick coating with a pour that is too hot. 

[dlourence]

Thank you so much @TallTayl

[Fosse]

If it melts all the wax on the side half wax down it will put it out, especially as the wick is trimmed every couple of hours... you need to, in my opinion, heat the wax to a higher temperature and combine a softer melt point wax in, cure for at least 4 days, it needs to cure somewhere with little fluctuation in temp. Each day if you smell it, it will smell a bit different as the fragrances "mature" in the wax. Consider trialling multiple different brands / types of wick as different fragrances will react differently to the wick. The wick ought to be just under 1cm for the first burn, it can be shorter as it melts down, you could even slightly off centre the wick and make a small cut in the coating towards the centre to control the curl of the wick towards the middle... but that's optional and a bit techy... hope it helps

[TallTayl]

If you have to trim your wick as the candle burns it is not wicked correctly. 
 

not many “get it” with coconut wax. It is nothing like soy. 

[PINKT]

On 2/8/2018 at 7:08 AM, dlourence said:

HI EVERYONE, IM NEW TO CANDLING SO FAR SO GOOD. IM HAVING A HARD TIME WITH MY SCENT THROW. I REALLY HAVEN'T FOUND THE SCENT CO. IM THRILLED WITH YET. I FEEL LIKE SOME OF MY SCENT FALLS TO THE BOTTOM WITH WEAK THROW. IT DOES  SOMETIMES GET STRONGER TOWARDS THE BOTTOM . I USE COCONUT WAX.  I PRETTY MUCH HEAT THE WAX TO 185 ADD SCENT COOL TO ABOUT 165  THEN POUR. I'VE HEARD THE WAX NEEDS TO BIND NOT SURE HOW TO DO THAT WITH COCONUT WAX. ALSO THE AMOUNT OF SCENT. I READ COCONUT WAX CAN HANDLE MORE F.O. SO  THIS LAST CANDLE I MADE I ADDED 2OZ OF F.O. I WAS SO EXCITED I LET IT CURE FOR 2 DAYS  LIT IT AND ALMOST NO SCENT BOO HOO. IM USEING " SAVE ON SCENTS" F.O. 

HELP 

I know this post is old, but I have been using coconut wax since 2011.. what coconut wax are you using? Coconut waxes must be heated to at least 200.. you can go to 210.. add scent immediately, stir about 15sec and pour.. do not let it cool before pouring.

[HHcandle]

Hi pinkt! I am in the roller coaster of feeling really good about my candles and then completely feeing like the have little HT.... I use Northwoods coconut, heat to 200,  let cool a tad,  use 12-13% FO (could be a problem?) I really love Wellington and The Flaming Candle FOs and have been using the Premier wicks.  Any thoughts on my formula?!? Thanks so much!

[Nikkib10]

On 4/28/2020 at 12:35 AM, HHcandle said:

Hi pinkt! I am in the roller coaster of feeling really good about my candles and then completely feeing like the have little HT.... I use Northwoods coconut, heat to 200,  let cool a tad,  use 12-13% FO (could be a problem?) I really love Wellington and The Flaming Candle FOs and have been using the Premier wicks.  Any thoughts on my formula?!? Thanks so much!

Hello, try NorthWood’s ribbon wicks with the coconut wax. I never had a problem with scent throw while using those wicks. Also, be sure to use a premium fragrance oil. Flaming Candle FO are a really good option. I haven’t tried Wellington’s FO. Most people think all fragrance oils are the same, but some fragrance oils aren’t good for waxes due to them being “watered down”. Hope this helps!

[Chelsea]

Hey everyone,

I'm fairly new to making candles but i love it. I use coconut brew wax and 8oz mason jars and for wicks i use 2 different ones. I use ericx hemp wick and crafty candles zinc core wick. But for some reason my flame is weak. I've tried to light it and let some of the wax melt and pour it out incase maybe i cut the wick to short but it will light and be a nice size flame and get real weak again and I'm not sure why. On the bag of the wax i bought it says to heat the coconut brew wax to 180 degress and add color ans scent and let the wax cool until 140 degrees and then pour. Can any of you please help me out ? I would really appreciate it. 

[TallTayl]

11 hours ago, Chelsea said:

Hey everyone,

I'm fairly new to making candles but i love it. I use coconut brew wax and 8oz mason jars and for wicks i use 2 different ones. I use ericx hemp wick and crafty candles zinc core wick. But for some reason my flame is weak. I've tried to light it and let some of the wax melt and pour it out incase maybe i cut the wick to short but it will light and be a nice size flame and get real weak again and I'm not sure why. On the bag of the wax i bought it says to heat the coconut brew wax to 180 degress and add color ans scent and let the wax cool until 140 degrees and then pour. Can any of you please help me out ? I would really appreciate it. 

You don’t want to use a cored wick  like that zinc usually with coconut. They clog too much. Hemp wicks I found to be unreliable in any wax I’ve tried. For coconut wax I would move to a CDN because it can handle the acidic nature of natural waxes. Sometimes eco  in very very small sizes do well. Sometimes CD. You have to play with your wick and your fragrance and your vessel and your particular lot of wax to come up with the right balance.