craftwerks Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 I have started burning my second Bach of testers. Not getting good results and I think I need some advice. Picture 1 and 2 is the biggest container of 160 ml. It has a diameter of 65 mm. The wick is supposed to be used with my wax and for a container with max 65 mm. It has barely melted the sides... Picture 3 is my middle container of 120 ml. It is definitely tunneling, but the flame seems to be emiting enough heat, so I'm unsure... The wicks look centered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcandleattic Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 You shouldn't reach a FMP (full melt pool) on your first burn, and most of the time, not on the second burn either. Most of my candles do not reach fmp until the 3rd 4-6 hour burn. Then it will get to the sides and start catching up. In most cases if your candle reaches fmp on the first burn, the wick is too big, because by the time it burns down to the middle or farther down the jar, your melt pool will be too deep, you won't be able to touch the jar because it will be too hot, and it will be a fire hazard. These actually look good to me, depending on how long they've been burning. On that size jar I would burn 4 hours at a time. Keep good notes, and continue to burn the whole candle in 3-6 hour increments. Once it does reach the sides, then you want to see how deep your melt pool is after a 4 hour burn. It should not be deeper than 1/2 inch at most. I like to try to keep my melt pool between 1/4" deep and 1/2" deep. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craftwerks Posted March 6, 2017 Author Share Posted March 6, 2017 1 minute ago, Jcandleattic said: You shouldn't reach a FMP (full melt pool) on your first burn, and most of the time, not on the second burn either. Most of my candles do not reach fmp until the 3rd 4-6 hour burn. Then it will get to the sides and start catching up. In most cases if your candle reaches fmp on the first burn, the wick is too big, because by the time it burns down to the middle or farther down the jar, your melt pool will be too deep, you won't be able to touch the jar because it will be too hot, and it will be a fire hazard. These actually look good to me, depending on how long they've been burning. On that size jar I would burn 4 hours at a time. Keep good notes, and continue to burn the whole candle in 3-6 hour increments. Once it does reach the sides, then you want to see how deep your melt pool is after a 4 hour burn. It should not be deeper than 1/2 inch at most. I like to try to keep my melt pool between 1/4" deep and 1/2" deep. Oh, silly me. I was expecting it to burn evenly within a short time. No, they have been burning for an hour actually...Ill let it burn some more then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrazeKelly Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 I was gonna say, they don't look bad for a first burn. ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcandleattic Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 31 minutes ago, craftwerks said: Oh, silly me. I was expecting it to burn evenly within a short time. No, they have been burning for an hour actually...Ill let it burn some more then. Not silly! It's a common misconception, and you are fairly new, and we are always here to help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trappeur Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 They look great to me also. If you don't mind, could you possibly put up your sizes in inches and not in millimeters so for the ones who don't know what sizes they are,( like me) we could maybe help... Jars looking good so far...I've always wanted to try out the amber jars. I think those colors are gorgeous. Trappeur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craftwerks Posted March 6, 2017 Author Share Posted March 6, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Trappeur said: They look great to me also. If you don't mind, could you possibly put up your sizes in inches and not in millimeters so for the ones who don't know what sizes they are,( like me) we could maybe help... Jars looking good so far...I've always wanted to try out the amber jars. I think those colors are gorgeous. Trappeur Sorry, I forget that Americans dont really use mm. Ill edit my post Edit. I wasn't able to edit so Ill write here> 65 mm / 2.5 inch Edited March 6, 2017 by craftwerks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trappeur Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Oh, no problem......thankyou! Trappeur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craftwerks Posted March 9, 2017 Author Share Posted March 9, 2017 So this is my medium sized candle after it has burned for about 4 hrs (not 4 consecutive hours) The candle seems to be burning well and the wick size seems to be good. However I'm not a fan of the trail of wax that is being left on the sides. Is this normal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldieMN Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 I'm thinking that wax will melt as the candle continues to burn. It isn't like the wax is tunneling down the middle. Goldie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcandleattic Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 How many burns is this? First burn? As Goldie said, as the candle burns down and the jar gets warm that residue will melt down into the candle. It'll catch up to itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craftwerks Posted March 9, 2017 Author Share Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jcandleattic said: How many burns is this? First burn? As Goldie said, as the candle burns down and the jar gets warm that residue will melt down into the candle. It'll catch up to itself. This is the second burn. It has cleared up now I have another question. It has been burning for apr. 5-7 hours and the glass is pretty hot. The part from the melted wax and above. Is it normal that the glass is so hot? It is so hot that if I was to pick the jar up by the top, I wouldn't be able to. It was mentioned to me on this forum that I should decrease my wick size if its that hot, but the wick is perfect for this wax...An Edited March 9, 2017 by craftwerks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craftwerks Posted March 9, 2017 Author Share Posted March 9, 2017 2 hours ago, GoldieMN said: I'm thinking that wax will melt as the candle continues to burn. It isn't like the wax is tunneling down the middle. Goldie It did I have been lucky so far! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcandleattic Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) Half way through and it's hot, and the melt pool is deep. Not terribly deep, but you might want to try wicking down 1 size and see if you might get a little better results. You're getting there. Quote It was mentioned to me on this forum that I should decrease my wick size if its that hot, but the wick is perfect for this wax.. If it's too hot to handle, than no, it's not perfect, and should be retested with a smaller wick. You have to test the entire candle burning it intervals all the way to the bottom of the candle before determining if a wick is correct or not. The farther this burns down, the hotter the jar will get, and the deeper the pool. (Sorry, I missed this part in my original reply) Edited March 9, 2017 by Jcandleattic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craftwerks Posted March 9, 2017 Author Share Posted March 9, 2017 17 minutes ago, Jcandleattic said: Half way through and it's hot, and the melt pool is deep. Not terribly deep, but you might want to try wicking down 1 size and see if you might get a little better results. You're getting there. If it's too hot to handle, than no, it's not perfect, and should be retested with a smaller wick. You have to test the entire candle burning it intervals all the way to the bottom of the candle before determining if a wick is correct or not. The farther this burns down, the hotter the jar will get, and the deeper the pool. (Sorry, I missed this part in my original reply) Yikes, okay...I will try order a size smaller then. So a correctly wicked jar is hot, but not so hot you can't hold it? just so I know what I'm looking for... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldieMN Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Very good questions, Craftwerks. Goldie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kandlekrazy Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Really looks pretty good too bad it got hot. 1 size down should work for you based on the fo you are using. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcandleattic Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 22 minutes ago, craftwerks said: Yikes, okay...I will try order a size smaller then. So a correctly wicked jar is hot, but not so hot you can't hold it? just so I know what I'm looking for... It should be a bit warmer than luke warm. Uncomfortable, but not hot. If you need to move it a short distance you should be able too, even though it's not advised to move a burning candle, or a candle with liquid wax. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craftwerks Posted April 10, 2017 Author Share Posted April 10, 2017 (edited) Im back! After a long break... I have tested my wax and bought new wicks BUT it doesn't seem right. The melt pool is just right and the candle burns all the way to the edges, but the flame is flickering constantly. I feel like giving up. What do I do from here? Edit: the picture is the candle with a diameter of apr. 2.3 inches. The wick has also been reduced in size... Edited April 10, 2017 by craftwerks added a picture 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldieMN Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Someone with more experience than me will respond, BUT if this was my candle and I had a good hot throw, jar wasn't too hot to handle, sides cleaning up nicely as it burned, I wouldn't care about the flickering flame. I would be very happy. Goldie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trappeur Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 3 hours ago, GoldieMN said: Someone with more experience than me will respond, BUT if this was my candle and I had a good hot throw, jar wasn't too hot to handle, sides cleaning up nicely as it burned, I wouldn't care about the flickering flame. I would be very happy. Goldie I agree with Goldie..... Trappeur 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nursenancy Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 I think I would try going down one more size from that. It looks like it may get really hot at the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trappeur Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 I think you might want to go down a wick size. That melt pool is going to get deeper and the jar hotter. Trappeur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craftwerks Posted April 11, 2017 Author Share Posted April 11, 2017 6 hours ago, Trappeur said: I think you might want to go down a wick size. That melt pool is going to get deeper and the jar hotter. Trappeur it is like a never ending nightmare finding the correct wick. I guess I will try and find a smaller wick then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trappeur Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Just curious Craftwerks.....what wax do you use and what size wick and style are you using? Wow! Your from Norway....I've always been in awe of the beautiful countryside you live in..... Trappeur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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