Grani L Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Anyone have any idea what container maker for soy candles is? I saw it in a you tube video - it is a liquid - looks like oil or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GalaxyGirl Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Could you give the link to the youtube video, because I've never heard of it and would like to know what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scifichik Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Are you talking about making your own silicone molds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grani L Posted November 21, 2015 Author Share Posted November 21, 2015 The video is called - Perfect Soy candle in Glass - website - candlemaking.com.au - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldieMN Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 This is the product. Wonder, also, what it is exactly. http://candlemaking.com.au/index.php?route=blog/blog&blog_id=18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Wouldn't it be funny if that yellow liquid were just vegetable oil? It looks like a soy oil or maybe sunflower. I hate when companies shilling magical additives are evasive about their miracle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grani L Posted November 24, 2015 Author Share Posted November 24, 2015 It had me taking a long look at my soap testing oils and left me wondering!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Has anyone used this? Is it thick? Since it is "soy based", makes me wonder if it is lecithin. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kandlekrazy Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 (edited) I bet you are right and it's just soy oil, typically sold as vegetable oil. Maybe somebody from AU has tried it. Love some of their jars, especially the antique apothecary ones. Edited May 14, 2017 by kandlekrazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candybee Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 When I click on the link I don't see any pictures. Just the blurb about container maker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 2 hours ago, Candybee said: When I click on the link I don't see any pictures. Just the blurb about container maker. The link is to a blog. I had to look at the products. The liquid is pretty dark, which made me think lecithin. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inthedark Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 I’m in Australia and I have used it. It looks and behaves like a vegetable oil, it’s essentially odourless, has a yellow color to it and has very similar viscosity to vegetable oil. I did read somewhere that it was possibly the same as universal soy additive in the United States. My guess is that it maybe canola or soy oil or a blend of the two. I have used straight soy oil and container maker and I didn’t notice much of a difference between the two. It does seem to help reduce the frosting issues and assists with smooth tops and container adhesion after pouring with GW464 soy wax but still doesn’t make the GW464 wax perfect. I also found that it had a negligible effect on scent throw with the fragrances I was using at the time I tried it, 4 week curing times had more effect on scent throw. I am currently testing it on a new wax blend that I have been working on for some time and it appears to have reduced the sooting with a longish wick to some extent. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obsessed Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 On 5/15/2017 at 3:52 PM, inthedark said: I’m in Australia and I have used it. It looks and behaves like a vegetable oil, it’s essentially odourless, has a yellow color to it and has very similar viscosity to vegetable oil. I did read somewhere that it was possibly the same as universal soy additive in the United States. My guess is that it maybe canola or soy oil or a blend of the two. I have used straight soy oil and container maker and I didn’t notice much of a difference between the two. It does seem to help reduce the frosting issues and assists with smooth tops and container adhesion after pouring with GW464 soy wax but still doesn’t make the GW464 wax perfect. I also found that it had a negligible effect on scent throw with the fragrances I was using at the time I tried it, 4 week curing times had more effect on scent throw. I am currently testing it on a new wax blend that I have been working on for some time and it appears to have reduced the sooting with a longish wick to some extent. what if it is Soy Oil and USA mixed together eh?!! A pinch here, a splash there ... its not at all expensive , so has to be a cheap oil of some kind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Adding liquid soy oil to smooth the appearance of soy wax makes sense. Soy wax is partially hydrogenated soy oil. Over time soy wax dries out a LOT. The dry texture looks frosty. Plus adding a liquid oil to the wax changes how the wax crystals (grains) form as the molten wax cools. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obsessed Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 On 5/18/2017 at 2:10 AM, TallTayl said: Adding liquid soy oil to smooth the appearance of soy wax makes sense. Soy wax is partially hydrogenated soy oil. Over time soy wax dries out a LOT. The dry texture looks frosty. Plus adding a liquid oil to the wax changes how the wax crystals (grains) form as the molten wax cools. WOuld you class Coconut Oil as a liquid oil ... as it is liquid above a certain temp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 27 minutes ago, obsessed said: WOuld you class Coconut Oil as a liquid oil ... as it is liquid above a certain temp? Yes, at least coconut 76 or even fractionated coconut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obsessed Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 9 hours ago, TallTayl said: Yes, at least coconut 76 or even fractionated coconut. Sorry TT to be such a pest , I have a jar of basic health food coconut oil , which I assume is the 76. ( I googled 76 and thats the reg melt point?) .. so what you're saying basically is to use one that either doesn't solidify (fractionated) or one with a low melt point? I bought some coconut wax , which I think is blended with soy. It is very soft . I am assuming the oil then would be a better alternative to the wax then. Is this correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill H Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 On 5/15/2017 at 1:52 AM, inthedark said: I’m in Australia and I have used it. It looks and behaves like a vegetable oil, it’s essentially odourless, has a yellow color to it and has very similar viscosity to vegetable oil. I did read somewhere that it was possibly the same as universal soy additive in the United States. My guess is that it maybe canola or soy oil or a blend of the two. I have used straight soy oil and container maker and I didn’t notice much of a difference between the two. It does seem to help reduce the frosting issues and assists with smooth tops and container adhesion after pouring with GW464 soy wax but still doesn’t make the GW464 wax perfect. I also found that it had a negligible effect on scent throw with the fragrances I was using at the time I tried it, 4 week curing times had more effect on scent throw. I am currently testing it on a new wax blend that I have been working on for some time and it appears to have reduced the sooting with a longish wick to some extent. Interesting! Thanks for sharing. At what percentage did you dose the soy oil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allana80 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 ITS BASICALLY VEGATABLE OIL THIS IS THE PRODUCT SAFETY INFORMATION. Trade Name : Blended Vegetable Oil Chemical: Mixed Triglycerides Classification : Edible Vegetable Fat SECTlON 2 : COMPOSITION AND INFORMATION ON INGREDIENTS Neutralized Bleached Deodorized Soyabean Oil, BOO1-22-7 Refined Bleached Deodorized Soyabean Oil Refined Bleached Deodorized Palm Olein (IV60) 8(m2-75-3 Mixed 54-28-4.119-13-1.59+)2-9 Tocopherol Dimethylpolysiloxane (antifoam) 63148-62-9 Proportion 84.9953% [4.9992% o.U)5o% o.00 o5% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shutonda Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 I tried adding coconut oil to my soy candle wax at 185*. I was pleased to see the top of the candle surface was smooth. The only problem is I used too much. The wax was soft even after curing for two weeks. Coconut oil would be perfect if you could add the right amount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inthedark Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 An update about my findings with Container Maker that is available in Australia. I tried container maker for quite a few years and I conducted some testing where I made some candles with soy wax and 5% container maker and some without container maker using the same fragrances, fragrance loads and soy wax from the same batch. I found that after sitting for a while, the candles that were made with container maker had their fragrances altered and the scent throw reduced whilst the candles that were made without container maker, seemed to have minor alterations with the fragrance and a better scent throw. I then did some further testing adding the fragrance oil to pure container maker and the same fragrance oil and amount to RBD coconut oil and found that after 3 months, the scent from the fragrance oil and container maker smelt different and was considerably reduced in strength whereas the fragrance oil and RBD coconut oil did not change in fragrance or strength. In the end, I gave up on adding oils to waxes once I managed to try the Denali brand by Summit Wax in Australia (my guess is that it was sourced from Denali or Denalli in the USA but I could be wrong.) which was a blend of soy wax and coconut wax, it wasn’t perfect but was reliable and worked well for a soy wax blend. Now that Covid has disrupted everything, the Denali coconut/soy wax isn’t available and hasn’t been available for quite some time so I carried out extensive testing with IGI 6046A coconut/paraffin container wax and now I have candles that work exceptionally well and I probably won’t go back to soy wax again. As a side note, I used to get a strange sensation in my throat when I burnt soy wax candles and that sensation doesn’t occur when I burn the coconut/paraffin candles. I came across (a few years ago) the results of a test conducted by a German testing facility that compared the products of combustion in relation to unscented soy, unscented paraffin and unscented beeswax candles and found that the paraffin wax is the most preferable wax and that a lot of what is published on the internet about paraffin wax toxicity is incorrect. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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