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I have gone thru more than 100 cases of 6006 in recent years. This is the first case that I am finding something very different: Lot # 1503549, when at room temp. (between 74-76) is cracking when I insert a knife into the middle of a block that is about 6" x 6", just one layer deep. As those of you who use this wax know, it is usually a soft wax, and even when really cold, it is still very yielding to a butter knife. It feels like the formula is different. I would suggest 6006 users to be sure to test every case of wax - you should do this anyway, but this time it is even more important.

I bought this wax at Aztec this afternoon, but they don't make the wax, they just sell it.

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I haven't had anywhere near the experience with this wax that most have but have used it in my tarts and the few candles I've made. I've ordered it from Bitter Creek South, Lonestar, The Candlemaker's store and Aztec and I don't know why but it always looked different to me when it came from Aztec. But then again, I didn't make huge orders so this may be a common thing.

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All of the 6006 I bought during the last 6 years was pretty much the same. This one is very different in it's raw state... it's definitely brittle. I don't know how big the 'lots' that they make are, but I'd watch it from other suppliers too.

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Old Glory, I have always bought my wax from Aztec as I live in Nashville and the shipping is super fast. I haven't gotten deep enough into my last batch of 6006 to notice a difference, however, I don't think I'll be getting my wax from them in the future. The wax from my last order was directly in the cardboard box, unwrapped and uncovered. I am still picking dust and debris from the box out of it. I wonder if Aztec packs it this way, or if maybe it's come from a different supplier and they just ship as is. I've always gotten great service from them, but this has really been a disappointment.

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No, they don't pack it - it comes to them like that. You should be able to see the label from the manufacturer on the outside of the box. The people who make the product have label standards to conform to just like we do. I think the best thing to do is to contact Aztec and tell them how disappointed you are and that you may have to find a new supplier because the way the last box of wax came to you was unacceptable, time consuming, and substandard. I will for sure let them know that the it appears as though the formula has changed and they need to contact the manufacturer to find out why it's different now, and also if this is the new formula.

It makes me wonder if they've had a change in management or labor at the 6006 factory in Canada.

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I received a case of wax in a Green Giant cardboard box that was pretty beat up. The wax was in terrible condition, so I contacted the seller and asked them when did they start shipping in Green Giant boxes? There was the sound of gnashing teeth and I was told that when some carriers damage a box, they re-box it and ship it on to the customer. I was not charged for the wax and received another case of wax on the house. This time the wax was boxed correctly and the wax was pristine in a plastic bag. HTH  In response to your statement about the 6006; some soy harvests yield  (due to drought conditions) a poorer bean and the wax can be brittle. You can add a little petrolatum to soften the wax (sometimes called sticky wax) .  HTH

 

Steve

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As both a supplier and a user of that wax, that is NOT normal and I don't feel that it would fall within the spec ranges for the wax What else does it say on the label aside from the lot number? Does it say 6006a etc? I've used that wax off and on since Dussek Campbell was producing it, so through three owners and its never changed more than a smidge. It almost sounds like it's not 6006?

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No, they don't pack it - it comes to them like that. You should be able to see the label from the manufacturer on the outside of the box. The people who make the product have label standards to conform to just like we do. I think the best thing to do is to contact Aztec and tell them how disappointed you are and that you may have to find a new supplier because the way the last box of wax came to you was unacceptable, time consuming, and substandard. I will for sure let them know that the it appears as though the formula has changed and they need to contact the manufacturer to find out why it's different now, and also if this is the new formula.

It makes me wonder if they've had a change in management or labor at the 6006 factory in Canada.

That's the plan Flicker.

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I am pretty sure that 6006a is made in OshKosh, WI and not the Toronto plant. I could be wrong but we only buy from the one source and we have 6006. It almost sounds like it has too much soy if it cracks like that. Our Ez Parasoy is like that. Frustrating when things change. I hope that it's not something that we are going to all be suffering soon! ack! A few years back tons of the IGI 4625 was not right, but that was an easy, add vybar fix. Surely this would alter wicking and everything. :( Let us know if you get any answers.

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Yeah, I ran a few testers before pouring the purchase order I'm working on and I don't need to change my wicks. Thank God.

At first I thought it was heavy on soy because of the way it looks (sort of crumbly on the inside of the slab), but now I think it's heavy on the wrong kind of paraffin... like someone dumped in a pillar type of paraffin instead of the soft type of paraffin. I am using the same amount of dye and it's darker than the last order. More soy would make it a bit lighter. It is a very strange looking wax. I will come back to this thread if I find out anything worth reporting.

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A very strange thing happened to about 10% of the candles I made with this wax. A vertical line appeared in the wax, almost like a crack or a fracture, right up against the glass. There is no separation in the crack - yet. I put labels over the cracks - here's one before I labelled it.

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Wow!!!!!! That's heartbreaking! I just received a new batch from Peak. I haven't poured any yet, but this makes me extremely cautious. Have you heard back from anyone on this?

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I haven't heard from anyone yet.

 

To be clear, that was the only candle that split. About 10% of the rest of the jars had the line in the first picture. I had NO idea that any would actually split like that. I went thru 5 cases of 6006 in this order and they were all from the same batch.

 

If I knew then what I know now, I would not even open a box with that batch number. I would tell my supplier I would not accept any cases from that batch. The manufacturer clearly screwed up this wax. I can only hope my client doesn't have candles on the shelf that are splitting.

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I delivered the order this morning - 53 dozen jars with 6006. I did not burn one with the line in it. I melted down the jar with the crack and watched it for 24 hours, no crack reappeared. I can promise you I will not buy another case of that wax with the specific lot number.

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