Candybee Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Aren't stearic acid and palm stearic the same? I always thought they. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Not always. The one from soapers choice, mountain rise, etc are specified as palm, but some sources use animal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcandleattic Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Ditto what TT said. Some places will specify "vegetable stearic" and that is the palm stearic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candybee Posted April 1, 2015 Author Share Posted April 1, 2015 (edited) I got the 10lb box from Soaper's Choice. Don't remember anything about which stearic it is. Maybe I should look again. Thanks. Just checked. It says vegetable. So that's the palm right? Edited April 1, 2015 by Candybee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I got the 10lb box from Soaper's Choice. Don't remember anything about which stearic it is. Maybe I should look again. Thanks. Just checked. It says vegetable. So that's the palm right?Typically, yes. Palm. Trle pressed palm is what SC has every time i am ready to buy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candybee Posted April 1, 2015 Author Share Posted April 1, 2015 I just realized you had already answered my question re SP's stearic in your earlier post TT. Thanks! I don't think I have ever seen animal stearic? Is that common? What is a typical animal stearic? or what's it made from? I'm just curious. I want to make sure I can recognize it if I come across it. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I don't think I have ever seen animal stearic? Is that common? What is a typical animal stearic? or what's it made from? I'm just curious. I want to make sure I can recognize it if I come across it. Thanks. I used to get the animal version several years ago, just because it was often what the suppliers had. Presumably it's derived from tallow. It still exists, but the suppliers who cater to us seem to all sell veggie stearic now. The flaked versions look pretty identical, but they smell different. If you ever got the animal version you would probably notice that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candybee Posted April 2, 2015 Author Share Posted April 2, 2015 If its tallow derived I would love to try it in my shaving soaps! Do you remember where you got it? is it possible to still get it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 If its tallow derived I would love to try it in my shaving soaps! Do you remember where you got it? is it possible to still get it?I got it from the same places that are now selling palm stearic, so I'm not sure. Try sending a note to Candlechem on eBay to inquire. If any of the candle suppliers have it, he might. You probably don't need it though. The two types are essentially the same product and should work the same regardless of source. It's free fatty acid as opposed to oil, which is triglycerides. Stearic and I think some palmitic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 I just thought I'd throw in that, as you know, saturated fats saponify faster than unsaturated, but free fatty acids saponify even faster than fats. That's why adding the stearic acid moves things along, and why old oils or olive pomace can speed up trace. Unlike oils, saponifying free fatty acids like the stearic flakes produces soap but no glycerine by-product. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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