I just wanted to encourage anyone who is having trouble with their candles not turning out and mention my recent experience. I use 464 and have had good success melting it to 185 degrees, adding some CO and cooling to 135 to pour. All of a sudden and for no apparent reason I am dealing with air bubbles and "pot holes" all over my candles. I have changed the temperature of the room, the temperature I melted my wax, the temperature I heated my jars, tempered in more ways than I can count, took out dye, fragrance, jumped through many hoops and still could not get rid of the problem. I think I even started singing "This Little Light of Mine" for inspiration. I spent hours searching this forum for answers. It has been this way for about a month. Then my darling husband helped me discover the simple answer... I have two candy thermometers that are exactly alike- or so I thought. The newer one that I bought is registering 20 degrees cooler than the other!!!!! So I am actually only melting to 165 and pouring at 115- which was not working for me at all. I say all that to say this: Look for the easy answers first before you get so frustrated you want to give up. And be patient- as I have seen on this forum, we that work with pure soy are like chocolatiers. And they can make some pretty cool stuff! JLynne <*)))><