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I tried Q210 with an EO blend I created and cotton wick, then tried an FO blend mixing 4 different fragrances from 2 companies & used wood wicks for that one. Testers worked well, CT was there after 2 days & HT was great. It may be my batch of wax. There seems to be more bad reviews then good. Poured testers for Q220 w/ EO's and will burn them soon then test again w/ Q210.

I usually wait two days when testing. It's worked well for me. Still testing the new Ecosoya waxes and so far I'm liking them. I don't use high fragrance loads either. Burning the Q210 soon as I poured testers for that yesterday. Then I'll do more testing of the Q210. A lot don't like this wax so I'm guessing Ecosoya may tweak their waxes in the future.

I was using a jar that is about 3 1/8 in diameter and used a HTP 105 wick and the scent was from Bitter Creek. I let it cure for 2 days. I'm currently testing the Q210 and will move onto the Q220 and Q230 soon.

I posted my pours on page 5 near the bottom they came out great. This is with 210. Will be trying 220 soon. My customers like the essentials and I like them too. Used to use a lot more FO's and some want certain scents. Sometimes I crave certain scents that I can only get with FO's.

I use it and like it but use wooden wicks with it. With essential oil blends and wicking it does take some testing to figure out.

Are you getting a cold throw at all? I haven't used this exact scent but used another fragrance oil from another company and had a great hot throw and I was using 8% fragrance for that one and added no colour. I added my scent at around 155-165 and poured at your temp and stir for about 2 minutes. Try lower your fragrance load as that is the only thing I can think of. I used straight 464 as well. I know how frustrating this can be as I just went through so much testing over a month ago and I'm back at it again. Try contacting Candle Science as well to see if they can help you pinpoint the problem.

I use both the Coconut and Apricot waxes and haven't experienced pooling or tunneling near the wick. I use my own essential oil blends with these waxes and haven't had a problem. I have not tried fragrance oils with them though. I've not been able to find a 100% coconut or apricot blend and have been told it's because it would be too soft to work with.

With an essential oil blend I use HTP 105 or RRD 47. As this sounds trickier to wick you may need to go up a size if you haven't tried these options yet. I would also try going down to 6 or 7% load to see if that helps.

I started using 464 over a year ago and for cotton wicks it's been okay. For wood wicks however it's involved a lot of testing and is finnicky with various essential oils. The cold throw has been good for me and hot throw is good too. I haven't tried this but read somewhere that mixing 415 and 464 works well.

I find it a nightmare with my testers. With cotton wicks it's been fine for me but with wood wicks it's involved a tonne of testing. I also use essential oils for the most part. Pouring really slow helps but once you heat gun it then you get the frosting issue at least in my experience and it's worse with coloured candles. It's the wax I'm using right now while I continue to test the new Ecosoya Q210/220/230.

I know most have given up on this wax but posting this for those who are still testing it. I decided to try the Q210 with a fragrance oil that is 4 fragrance oils combined. Not from the manufacture either. I used 3 fragrance oils from Bitter Creek and 1 from Brambleberry to make up this blend. Used 7% of it and used various wooden wicks. These are two of my testers. It poured well and I pour at lower temps. Slight vinegar smell in raw form but don't smell it after adding scent and letting it cure. After 48 hours the cold throw was good (I've been reading others wait 1-2 weeks). I was happy with the hot throw and on some of my testers it burned the full diameter in 2 hours and in others it took 3-4 hours. Flame was anywhere from 3/4 to 1" high and burn pool was 1/4 to 3/8" When I blow them out they do smoke a bit more then the Advanced did but it wasn't excessive in my testing. Mostly I use essential oils but am using some fragrance oils for the season. Including photos of 2 of my testers at the 2 hour mark.

wthomas57, What soy wax do you recommend? Have you tried one you like? Nature Wax C3 is next on my list to try.

I had a bit of smoking the first time but the second time it was fine. I just heated it on really low heat which seemed to work well. I'm wondering if NGI is going to reformulate these waxes based on all these experiences.

I'm back with more information. At this point I've only made one tester with a light purple colour with the Q210 and used a HTP 105 with essential oils. It worked great and HTP 105 is what I used to use with the old CB advanced. I've continued to research this wax looking at sites mentioning the Q210/220/230. Just poured a few more testers trying out fragrance oil this time with the Q210 and am using wood wicks. A perfect pour and I"m hoping to burn them tomorrow or Sunday. Cold throw is already starting to come through with this. I've had no vinegar smell after adding scent and allowing it to cure. The photos are a group of smaller sizes: tealight, 2 oz deep and 2 oz shallow, close up of the 2 oz shallow and 8 oz glass. I heat the wax on a double boiler grid thing (can't think of what it's called) but it goes at the bottom of a deep pot and then I add water and sit my 4 lb candle cylinder jar on it. I keep the heat on really low until it melts completely. I've read you should heat to 155 but I've had mine go above that. Then I add scent around 145 and stir really well and pour below 145. According to Lone Star Candle they spoke to NGI and were told that the Q230 has been reformulated to be a bit harder. This is what they said: "I did hear from Ecosoya the other day and they told me after their initial production, they wen't back and adjusted the Q230 to make it absorb fragrance better and set up a littler harder." A lady out of Quebec has had great results with this wax and continues to use it which is interesting as I've read some bad reviews on other sites and some good reviews. Now I can't make a complete conclusion as I have more testing to do but I haven't ruled this wax out yet. Once I figure out wicks for the Q210 I'll move onto the Q220 and Q230. Am currently using GB 464 which isn't my favourite but making it work for now until I can get testing figured out with another wax. I'm thinking that some of us are getting good batches and others are not. @wthomas57 Yikes you've gone through a lot of wax. Did you contact the manufacture to get a replacement or refund? Do you know of a good soy wax that doesn't use paraffin that you like working with? I've heard about Nature C-3 wax but haven't tried it yet.

Oh wow didn't realize you had tried so many different kinds of wax. Was one of them Cargil's Nature Wax C3? That is one I'd like to try in the future. I'll be trying a fragrance tester soon so I'll report back.