People just don't care if they are putting out a quality product. I'm on another forum and there's a gal there that just started making soap in June. She's already selling and vamping her batches up larger than what I even make and I've been selling for over 9 plus years now. I did call her out but she never responded. But there are many many others telling her what to buy and where etc. I just can't. They represent other soapmakers and cost them and myself business because they have no idea what their soap may do.
I see the same type of scenarios for candles. One just started and asking about labeling already.
I don't mind helping out newbies, but when they think they are ready to sell after a couple months, help ends.